Tuesday, March 17, 2009

The Case for the PreTrib Rapture, Turning Point with David Jeremiah

The focus of Monday (March 16) and Tuesday (March 17) "Turning Point" with David Jeremiah is the case for the pretribulation Rapture of the Church prior to the rise of the AntiChrist.
A major lynchpin of the argument is based on Revelations 3:10 which states:



Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the
hour of trial that is going to come upon the whole world to test those who live on
the earth.



Interestingly, chapters 4 through 19 of Revelations no longer mentions the Church strongly enhancing this argument. Jeremiah also notes that God, in the Bible, has taken His people out of harms way -- Lot and Rahab (mentioned in this week's Bible reading in Joshua) are noted as examples.

The broadcasts can be found here.

Turning Point (Dr. David Jeremiah) - Broadcast Archives

One of the arguments against pretrib is the belief that it is a relatively modern concept only dating back to 1830 or so.
The following blog article, from Dr Thomas Ice, attempts to disspell this belief.

A Brief History Of The

Rapture ~ Bible Prophecy Today

2 comments:

Irv said...

The NEWEST Pretrib Calendar

Hal (serial polygamist) Lindsey and other pretrib-rapture-trafficking and Mayan-Calendar-hugging hucksters deserve the following message: "2012 may be YOUR latest date. It isn't MAYAN!" Actually, if it weren't for the 179-year-old, fringe-British-invented, American-merchandised pretribulation rapture bunco scheme, Hal might still be piloting a tugboat on the Mississippi. roly-poly Thomas Ice (Tim LaHaye's No. 1 strong-arm enforcer) might still be in his tiny folding-chair church which shares its firewall with a Texas saloon, Jack Van Impe might still be a jazz band musician, Tim LaHaye might still be titillating California matrons with his "Christian" sex manual, Grant Jeffrey might still be taking care of figures up in Canada, Chuck Missler might still be in mysterious hush-hush stuff that rocket scientists don't dare talk about, John Hagee might be making - and eating - world-record pizzas, and Jimmy ("Bye You" Rapture) Swaggart might still be flying on a Ferriday flatbed! To read more details about the eschatological British import that leading British scholarship never adopted - the import that's created some American multi-millionaires - Google "Pretrib Rapture Diehards" (note LaHaye's hypocrisy under "1992"), "Hal Lindsey's Many Divorces," "Thomas Ice (Bloopers)" and "Thomas Ice (Hired Gun)," "LaHaye's Temperament," "Wily Jeffrey," "Chuck Missler - Copyist," "Open Letter to Todd Strandberg" and "The Rapture Index (Mad Theology)," "X-Raying Margaret," "Humbug Huebner," "Thieves' Marketing," "Appendix F: Thou Shalt Not Steal," "The Unoriginal John Darby," "Pretrib Hypocrisy," "The Real Manuel Lacunza," "Roots of (Warlike) Christian Zionism," "America's Pretrib Rapture Traffickers," "Pretrib Rapture - Hidden Facts," "Dolcino? Duh!" and "Scholars Weigh My Research." Most of the above is written by journalist/historian Dave MacPherson who has focused on long-hidden pretrib rapture history for 35+ years. No one else has focused on it for 35 months or even 35 weeks. MacPherson has been a frequent radio talk show guest and he states that all of his royalties have always gone to a nonprofit group and not to any individual. His No. 1 book on all this is "The Rapture Plot" (see Armageddon Books online, etc.). The amazing thing is how long it has taken the mainstream media to finally notice and expose this unbelievably groundless yet extremely lucrative theological hoax!

(Saw above on the web. For Rev. 3:10 Google "Famous Rapture Watchers" also Google "America's Pretrib Rapture Traffickers." Irv)

mike Pietruk said...

Irv

Irv, First of all, thanks for your contribution. You are obviously impassioned on this topic; I have no such passion to support or debunk any stance on this matter. What has always stumped me is why this has become such a hot button controversy and, more importantly, as a Christian, why does this matter? Odds are that we, first of all, will be in Heaven when this occurs. Also, as a Christian, my focus ought to be on eternal salvation rather than details of the implementation of Christ's earthly kingdom. About all I am certain -- and this all accounts seem to agree upon -- is that the trib period will be an awful one on this planet and I hope that I will not be around Earth to be a part of it.